List Idea I'm Playing With

So, the Skullcrushers are mean. Really mean, and frankly what's better than having one unit of Juggernaut riding Knights? Why two of course! So, here's the list I'm playing around with, let me know what you think...

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2497 pts, 97 models, 11 units (+2 independents).

Esmer the Living Flame, Sorcerer Lord of Tzeentch (Level 4 Upgrade, MoT)
■ Charmed Shield
■ Infernal Puppet
■ Necrotic Phylactery

Hinge the Mad, Exalted Hero of Tzeentch (BSB) (Shield, BSB, MoT)
+ Chaos Steed
■ Warrior Bane
■ Talisman of Endurance

Damien the Twice Blessed, Exalted Hero of Tzeentch (Shield, MoT)
■ Disk of Tzeentch
■ Biting Blade
■ Talisman of Preservation
■ Bloodcurdling Roar

5 Chaos Warhounds

5 Chaos Warhounds

5 Chaos Warhounds

5 The Pleasureseekers, Marauder Horsemen of Slaanesh (Flails, Spears, Mus, MoS)

40 The Executioners, Marauders of Khorne (Mus, Std, GW)

15 Chaos Warriors of Tzeentch (Halberds, Shields, Mus, Std, MoT)
■ Banner of Rage

14 The Immortals, Warriors of Tzeentch (Shields, FC, MoT)
Sorcerer goes with this unit.

Chaos Chariot

3 Dragon Ogres (Great Weapons)

3 Skullcrushers of Khorne (Ensorcelled)

3 Skullcrushers of Khorne (Ensorcelled)

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Looks good. Only thing I can see is that this looks like a huge army deployment wise and Warriors don't have the best leadership so redirection and panic (panic less so w/ the marks) might cause early trouble.

I've been mulling it over, and I'm not completely happy with the survivability of my BSB. In all of my playtests he's done wonderfully as long as I didn't do something stupid with him. However, it occured to me that I could just drop one of the units of hounds, then use the points to put him on a Disk and have 25 points left over for something like say Infernal Puppet. Here's how the revised list looks.

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2497 pts, 92 models, 10 units (+2 independents).

Esmer the Living Flame, Sorcerer Lord of Tzeentch (Level 4 Upgrade, MoT)
■ Charmed Shield
■ Infernal Puppet
■ Necrotic Phylactery
■ Third Eye of Tzeentch

Hinge the Mad, Exalted Hero of Tzeentch (BSB) (Shield, BSB, MoT)
+ Disk of Tzeentch
■ Warrior Bane
■ Talisman of Endurance

Damien the Twice Blessed, Exalted Hero of Tzeentch (Shield, MoT)
+ Disk of Tzeentch
■ Biting Blade
■ Talisman of Preservation
■ Bloodcurdling Roar

5 Chaos Warhounds

5 Chaos Warhounds

5 The Pleasureseekers, Marauder Horsemen of Slaanesh (Flails, Spears, Mus, MoS)

40 The Headhunters, Marauders of Khorne (Mus, Std, GW)

15 Chaos Warriors of Tzeentch (Halberds, Shields, Mus, Std, MoT)
■ Banner of Rage

14 The Immortals, Warriors of Tzeentch (Shields, FC, MoT)
Sorcerer goes with this unit.

Chaos Chariot

3 Dragon Ogres (Great Weapons)

3 Skullcrushers of Khorne (Ensorcelled)

3 Skullcrushers of Khorne (Ensorcelled)

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I made a few changes, I'd like to have puppet on my Sorcerer Lord but I feel like it's worth it to just go full steam ahead on the Sack of Hammers approach, give the second unit of Warriors Halberds and Banner of Eternal Flame instead.

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2497 pts, 92 models, 10 units (+2 independents).

Sorcerer Lord of Tzeentch (Level 4 Upgrade, MoT)
■ Charmed Shield
■ Infernal Puppet
■ Necrotic Phylactery

Hinge the Mad, Exalted Hero of Tzeentch (BSB) (Shield, BSB, MoT)
+ Disk of Tzeentch
■ Warrior Bane
■ Talisman of Endurance

Damien the Twice Blessed, Exalted Hero of Tzeentch (Shield, MoT)
+ Disk of Tzeentch
■ Biting Blade
■ Talisman of Preservation
■ Bloodcurdling Roar

5 Chaos Warhounds

5 Chaos Warhounds

5 Marauder Horsemen of Slaanesh (Flails, Spears, Mus, MoS)

40 Marauders of Khorne (Mus, Std, GW)

15 Chaos Warriors of Tzeentch (Halberds, Shields, Mus, Std, MoT)
■ Banner of Rage

14 Warriors of Tzeentch (Halberds, Shields, FC, MoT)
■ Banner of Eternal Flame
Sorcerer goes with this unit.

Chaos Chariot

3 Dragon Ogres (Great Weapons)

3 Skullcrushers of Khorne (Ensorcelled)

3 Skullcrushers of Khorne (Ensorcelled)

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I've gotten in 7 games with this army so far, and it hits like a truck. Now I just gotta replace proxies with the real McCoy. Let me know what you think.

I'm getting close to finishing, but I've noticed a few things while playtesting. First, the Warhounds aren't quite up to the task of running for my Skullcrushers, the unit of Marauder Horsemen however equipped as they are do a phenomenal job. So, I looked closely at my list and I've reached a point where I'm deciding to run it as it is, or switch out a couple of things. Here's the list as it stands.

LIST 1
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2500 pts, 92 models, 10 units (+2 independents).

Sorcerer Lord of Tzeentch (Level 4 Upgrade, MoT)
■ Tormentor Sword
■ Charmed Shield
■ Infernal Puppet
■ Necrotic Phylactery

Exalted Hero of Tzeentch (BSB) (Shield, BSB, MoT)
+ Disk of Tzeentch
■ Warrior Bane
■ Talisman of Endurance

Exalted Hero of Tzeentch (Shield, MoT)
+ Disk of Tzeentch
■ Biting Blade
■ Talisman of Preservation
■ Bloodcurdling Roar

5 Chaos Warhounds

5 Chaos Warhounds

5 The Pleasureseekers, Marauder Horsemen of Slaanesh (Flails, Spears, Mus, MoS)

40 The Headhunters, Marauders of Khorne (Mus, Std, GW)

15 Chaos Warriors of Tzeentch (Halberds, Shields, Mus, Std, MoT)
■ Banner of Rage

14 The Immortals, Warriors of Tzeentch (Shields, FC, MoT)
Sorcerer goes with this unit.

Chaos Chariot

3 Dragon Ogres (Great Weapons)

3 Skullcrushers of Khorne (Ensorcelled)

3 Skullcrushers of Khorne (Ensorcelled)

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And here's the alternative list...

LIST 2
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2500 pts, 90 models, 11 units (+2 independents).

Sorcerer Lord of Tzeentch (Level 4 Upgrade, MoT)
■ Charmed Shield
■ Infernal Puppet
■ Dragonbane Gem
■ Third Eye of Tzeentch

Exalted Hero of Tzeentch (BSB) (Shield, BSB, MoT)
+ Disk of Tzeentch
■ Warrior Bane
■ Talisman of Endurance

Exalted Hero of Tzeentch (Shield, MoT)
+ Disk of Tzeentch
■ Biting Blade
■ Talisman of Preservation
■ Bloodcurdling Roar

5 Chaos Warhounds

5 Chaos Warhounds

5 Marauder Horsemen of Slaanesh (Flails, Throwing Spears, Mus, MoS)

5 Marauder Horsemen of Slaanesh (Flails, Throwing Spears, Mus, MoS)

40 Marauders of Khorne (Mus, Std, GW)

15 Chaos Warriors of Tzeentch (Halberds, Shields, Mus, Std, MoT)
■ Banner of Rage

14 Warriors of Tzeentch (Shields, FC, MoT)
Sorcerer goes with this unit.

Chaos Chariot

Chaos Chariot

3 Skullcrushers of Khorne (Ensorcelled)

3 Skullcrushers of Khorne (Ensorcelled)

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I'm leaning very heavily toward the second list right now, I really wanted to keep my Dragon Ogres (I put a lot of work into them), and there will be some situations where they will be missed of course. But, having the two chariots and another unit of Horsemen will help during deployment as well as giving me a lot of redirection and flexibility during the movement phase.

Also, with the points shifted toward Third Eye I have a bit more flexibility in the Magic phase as well. So, I feel like the list is probably a lot more competitive this way. I'm going to sleep on it, I've got to decide pretty quickly so I can finish up the painting and the display board.