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PostSubject: Time to start prepping for IDM - CSM 2k   Time to start prepping for IDM - CSM 2k Icon_minitime6th February 2011, 9:58 pm

2000 Pts - Chaos Marines Roster

Total Roster Cost: 1994

HQ: Daemon Prince (1#, 150 pts)
1 Daemon Prince, 150 pts = Wings + Mark of Nurgle

HQ: Chaos Sorcerer (1#, 125 pts)
1 Chaos Sorcerer, 125 pts = Mark of Slaanesh + Lash of Submission

Elite: Chaos Terminators (3#, 120 pts)
1 Chaos Terminators, 0 pts
1 Terminator, Chain Fist x1 + Combi-melta x1
1 Terminator, Combi-melta x1
1 Terminator, Combi-melta x1

Elite: Chaos Terminators (3#, 120 pts)
1 Chaos Terminators, 0 pts
1 Terminator, Combi-melta x1
1 Terminator, Chain Fist x1 + Combi-melta x1
1 Terminator, Combi-melta x1

Troops: Plague Marines (7#, 248 pts)
5 Plague Marines,Personal Icon + Plasmagun x2
1 Plague Champion, Power Fist 25
1 Rhino,

Troops: Plague Marines (7#, 248 pts)
5 Plague Marines, Personal Icon 5 + Plasmagun x2
1 Plague Champion, Power Fist
1 Rhino,

Troops: Plague Marines (7#, 238 pts)
5 Plague Marines, Personal Icon + Flamer x2
1 Plague Champion, Power Fist Combi-flamer
1 Rhino

: Summoned Lesser Daemon (5#, 65 pts)
5 Summoned Lesser Daemon, 65 pts

: Summoned Lesser Daemon (5#, 65 pts)
5 Summoned Lesser Daemon, 65 pts

Heavy Support: Obliterators (3#, 225 pts)
3 Obliterators, 225 pts =

Heavy Support: Obliterators (3#, 225 pts)
3 Obliterators, 225 pts

Heavy Support: Predator (1#, 165 pts)
1 Predator, 165 pts = (Twin Linked Lascannon + Lascannon )

Time to start figuring out what to take...thoughts?

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PostSubject: Re: Time to start prepping for IDM - CSM 2k   Time to start prepping for IDM - CSM 2k Icon_minitime6th February 2011, 11:40 pm

I would take out all of the high toughness stuff. Also combi-meltas are completely useless in today's games. I would think about dropping the fists on all the troops and to save some more points you could get rid of the icons. I've found they don't do as much for the lesser demons as people seem to think. I would load up on chaos spawn. Lets be honest there isn't a reason not too. Also a Lascannon dreadnought would bolster your anti tank fire power. You could deploy them in the center of your army to protect your infantry.

So I think something like this would be a better choice for a competitive 2 day tournament.

Chaos lord, Mark of Sl, Sl steed.

Dreadnaought Missile launcher, lascannon

5 khorne berserkers

5 khorne berserkers

5 noise marines (these will go in your land raider)

10 Raptors, mark of tzeentch

10 lesser demons

10 lesser demons

land raider

fill the rest with chaos spawn

I think a list could crush someone who didn't see it coming. Leave the land raider in reserves to really shock your opponent on turn 5 when it comes in carrying those noise marines. Without any icons you don't have to worry about letting your opponent shoot at them which should save time and help with any slow playing players. You can use your berserkers as an objective holder on your side of the board going to ground and taking advantage of that great 3+ AS. Keep the lord on a steed running around the flanks trying to shoot down land speeders with his pistol.

Your list seemed to be lacking a little bit. It was a good first try though I must admit but you seemed to leave out some of the fundamental chaos strategies.

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PostSubject: Re: Time to start prepping for IDM - CSM 2k   Time to start prepping for IDM - CSM 2k Icon_minitime6th February 2011, 11:51 pm

Oof, where to find one of those apoca-spawn battalions..
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PostSubject: Re: Time to start prepping for IDM - CSM 2k   Time to start prepping for IDM - CSM 2k Icon_minitime6th February 2011, 11:59 pm

I'm quite certain Big D has just the Chaos Spawn you are looking for, around ten or eleven of those oh-so-indispensable models.
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PostSubject: Re: Time to start prepping for IDM - CSM 2k   Time to start prepping for IDM - CSM 2k Icon_minitime7th February 2011, 12:14 am

YOU look like a man who needs some Chaos Spawn. I just happen to have about 10 of those marvelous models painted up. I will make you a deal.
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PostSubject: Re: Time to start prepping for IDM - CSM 2k   Time to start prepping for IDM - CSM 2k Icon_minitime7th February 2011, 1:37 am

I erm... Actually would like some chaos spawn... How much and do you have pictures? (not joking this time)
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PostSubject: Re: Time to start prepping for IDM - CSM 2k   Time to start prepping for IDM - CSM 2k Icon_minitime7th February 2011, 10:03 am

littleboyblues wrote:
I erm... Actually would like some chaos spawn... How much and do you have pictures? (not joking this time)


Wait. Were you joking the first time? /cancels 3 box apoc-a spawn order
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PostSubject: Re: Time to start prepping for IDM - CSM 2k   Time to start prepping for IDM - CSM 2k Icon_minitime7th February 2011, 11:18 am

Though the Chaos Spawn list is overpowered, I believe the Land Raider list is what you should take.


Q: Chaos Lord (1#, 100 pts)
1 Chaos Lord, 100 pts = (base cost 90 + Melta Bombs 5 + Personal Icon 5)

Elite: Chaos Terminators (4#, 310 pts)
1 Chaos Terminators, 0 pts
3 Terminator, 90 pts = 3 * 30
1 Land Raider, 220 pts

Elite: Chaos Terminators (4#, 310 pts)
1 Chaos Terminators, 0 pts
3 Terminator, 90 pts = 3 * 30
1 Land Raider, 220 pts

Elite: Chaos Terminators (4#, 310 pts)
1 Chaos Terminators, 0 pts
3 Terminator, 90 pts = 3 * 30
1 Land Raider, 220 pts

Troops: Chaos Space Marines (5#, 75 pts)
5 Chaos Space Marines, 75 pts = 5 * 15

Troops: Chaos Space Marines (5#, 75 pts)
5 Chaos Space Marines, 75 pts = 5 * 15

Heavy Support: Land Raider (1#, 220 pts)
1 Land Raider, 220 pts

Heavy Support: Land Raider (1#, 220 pts)
1 Land Raider, 220 pts

Heavy Support: Land Raider (1#, 220 pts)
1 Land Raider, 220 pts

: Spawn (3#, 120 pts)
3 Spawn, 120 pts = 3 * 40

: Spawn (1#, 40 pts)
1 Spawn, 40 pts

As you can see I had gotten rid of most of the issues with the CSM list, like cult troops, special/heavy weapons, and Daemon Princes. To replace this I have added 6 Land Raiders to crush all that have, and made sure you had 4 chaos spawns to crush your enemies with.

Now I did the math for you on how much this amazing army will cost you. It is just the small amount of 595 before tax because I am sure you will be driving to memphis to buy this at the bunker today because you can not wait to start playing it.
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PostSubject: Re: Time to start prepping for IDM - CSM 2k   Time to start prepping for IDM - CSM 2k Icon_minitime7th February 2011, 11:37 am

I'm being trolled on my own army list thread!
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PostSubject: Re: Time to start prepping for IDM - CSM 2k   Time to start prepping for IDM - CSM 2k Icon_minitime7th February 2011, 6:36 pm

How about this @littleboy

2x Chaos Termie Lords w/ daemon weps, slaanesh

3x 5 man Noisemakers w/ Blastmaster, Rhino w/ havoc launcher

2x 10 man little daemons

3x 2x Oblits

3x 3x Spawn

1x 1x Spawn

Is that spawn enough for you !?
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PostSubject: Re: Time to start prepping for IDM - CSM 2k   Time to start prepping for IDM - CSM 2k Icon_minitime7th February 2011, 6:39 pm

you need to do a conversion army using spawn for the base models for the entire thing
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You need some icons in that list.
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PostSubject: Re: Time to start prepping for IDM - CSM 2k   Time to start prepping for IDM - CSM 2k Icon_minitime7th February 2011, 7:00 pm

Dannato wrote:
you need to do a conversion army using spawn for the base models for the entire thing

Pink spawns. Flowers growing out of their mouths.

Lol. The sad thing is I keep looking at them going..."You know..."

If I had 10 spawn and someone bet me to take that list: I would spawn the IDM.

#PleaseDontBetMe

#IHaveAProblem
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Ok I have an interesting proposition... You take a really silly stupid army for chaos and I'll take a really bad army as well and we'll see who can do better?
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Hoe Chit.

amazing idea.

If only we lived closer together and knew each other model count we could build each other's list. That sounded much stalkerier than I meant. Promise.
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*looks out my window*
Suspect

Great Idea! So I'll send you a model count of what I have later in the week!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Time to start prepping for IDM - CSM 2k   Time to start prepping for IDM - CSM 2k Icon_minitime7th February 2011, 10:46 pm

If you build list w/ 10 spawn then i'll need to buy them from Big_D - he said he'd make me a deal.
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PostSubject: Re: Time to start prepping for IDM - CSM 2k   Time to start prepping for IDM - CSM 2k Icon_minitime8th February 2011, 1:14 am

Capn is only 17, are you still interested? This is Chris Haaaaanson
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bdix wrote:
Capn is only 17, are you still interested? This is Chris Haaaaanson

"Tell me, do you bring Watermelon Zima to all of your tournaments?"
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PostSubject: Re: Time to start prepping for IDM - CSM 2k   Time to start prepping for IDM - CSM 2k Icon_minitime8th February 2011, 3:21 pm

Guess who's bringing an ice chest of Zima to the next tournament!
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Have a seat...What did you have planned for this scenario, Matt?
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PostSubject: Re: Time to start prepping for IDM - CSM 2k   Time to start prepping for IDM - CSM 2k Icon_minitime26th May 2011, 7:00 pm

Looks like the final list is:

Hq:

1x Abby
1x Kharn

5x PM in a rhino, champ, pfist, 2x melta
5x PM in a rhino, champ, pfist, 2x melta
5x PM in a rhino, champ, pfist, 2x plasma
6x KB in a rhino, champ, pfist
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3x Oblits
3x Oblits
2x Oblits

Slow, no long game if the Oblits are held back. Looks like i'll be playing the midfield and going for objectives and not the new tournament standard of "table thy opponent." Abby goes w/ 2x oblits, kharn goes wherever I need him to.

Looks like what i've settled on.
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I see my rock, and you have raised me paper.

Heres a phallic elephant icon for your troubles. elephant
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Then everything was worth it for a phallic elephant.
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PostSubject: Re: Time to start prepping for IDM - CSM 2k   Time to start prepping for IDM - CSM 2k Icon_minitime27th May 2011, 12:41 am

Matt,

Your avatar is amazing. That is all.

Hugs,
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